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Joe
Cavalieri
Superman
titles (Editor)
Former
Huntress writer, and editor of the Superman titles for DC
Comics (at the time of this interview). This interview is
© 1996 Joey Cavalieri, and the opinions expressed herein are
solely his and do not reflect those of DC Comics.
#1.
Q: When did you become interested in
comics?
A: When did I first become interested
in comics? Actually, an uncle brought a stack of 'em over
to my house when I was a mere tadpole. Apparently, a girl
in his neighborhood, named Michelle, was through with 'em.
I couldn't've been more than two or three, actually, at the
time, but I could already read, thanks to overexposure to
television, and the newspaper funnies. I had few playmates
at the time, and I really, really liked Michelle. (I've often
wondered if I was interested first in girls or comics: now
I know: girls first, and a girl turned me on to comics. Whaddaya
know?)
Anyway,
Michelle came over & we went through the entire stack. Most
of the stack was Betty & Veronica, Chili, Millie the Model,
and there were the odd one-shot Classic Comics, or the tv-based
Real McCoys. I have no real gender bias toward material, and
I didn't then ('cause I wouldn't have known better). On the
whole, however, it was not stuff that would have ordinarily
made a lasting impression. BUT. The first comic I picked off
the stack was a Donald Duck. A reprint of an earlier edition.
It was a story everybody in comics knows, and if they don't
they should. It's Carl Barks's "Lost in the Andes." Most people
who don't know the title know it as the "square-egg story."
This book had everything: high adventure, comedy, exotic locales,
kid interst, the works. And Donald can't be beat: his personality
was my very first exposure to sarcasm. Donald gets off the
best smart remark in the book: "Yes! 'Chickery Chick Cha-La
Cha-La!'" Well, context is everything. It was brilliant.
I
was hooked. I remember very clearly trying to draw Donald.
Kneeling on the floor, using the slanted part of the toy chest
as my "drafting table," and swinging that pencil around to
imitate Carl Barks' drawings of Donald. Because, after all,
I was too young to bop down to the store to get more of these
babies...so I could only get more by making my own! I remember
having real trouble following Donald's beak. It looked like
he had two mouths, and I couldn't get the hang of it. I abandoned
drawing in disgust for some time after that. Later, another
aunt & uncle of mine took me to their bungalow in Rockaway
Beach, a place called Cynthia Court, where there were tons
of kids my age & older. I was just as nutty for the girls
there, too. Particularly one named Debbie.
Anyway, all the girls really admired this one
kid, Kevin. You know what about Kevin? He had all the comics
in the world. He was real big on Sad Sack and Little Lotta,
and had the first couple of Justice Leagues I'd ever seen.
When summer was over, my aunt told my father how messed up
on comics I'd become, so there was a huge stack my father'd
found second-hand, waiting for me back at our apartment. Including
one of my all-time faves, the first Batman Annual! A kid's
practically never seen a comic book before, and sees one that
says, "How to Be the Batman" on the cover...how can you resist
this?
#2.
Q: How did you first become professionally
involved in comics? Professionally?
A: I think it was predestined.
I spent most of sixth grade making my own comics on looseleaf,
using my classmates as superhero characters. But I didn't
get into it professionally until college. One of my teachers
hipped me that DC was looking for a proofreader. I passed
their proofreader test, but they didn't hire me for the gig.
As
sort of a consolation prize, however, Joe was impressed enough
by my writing samples to want me to submit stuff to what were
then called "the mystery books": House of Mystery, Unexpected,
that sort of thing. Did that for a while, and eventually 1)
got to write some series monthly and 2) got a job on staff
working for Joe.
#3.
Q: How did you become involved with
the Superman line?
A: Simple enough. Mike Carlin
heard that I was "on liberty" from Marvel. (ed.note: Joey
was editor of Marvels now defunct 2099 line of comic books
before taking the helm of the SUPERMAN titles.) About a week
after I hit the pavement, Mike called & asked if I'd be interested
in becoming the Superman editor. Since everybody, and I mean,
everybody knows how serious & sentimental Mike is about the
Superman titles, the offer he sincerely trusted me.
Under
those circumstances, the offer was hard to turn down. So I
didn't.
#4.
Q: What big plans do you have in store
for the Superman line?
A: Can't tell ya.
#5.
Q: One of the complaints fans have about
the Superman comics is the inconsistancy of storyline quality.
(A fantastic storyline followed up by a series of lackluster
fill-ins.) How do you try to prevent/fix problems like this?
A: "Fill-ins" are usually a deadline
problem and a deadline necessity. usually, if everything's
going smoothly, you might never see a fill-in. But as life
gets wackier, there's no telling what can screw you up: a
courier foul-up, snowstorms that snarl air traffic, bomb scares.
It's getting to the point where any & every event in the NY
Times can affect your book!
#6.
Q: Are there any crossovers in the future
for Superman and characters from any other companies other
than Marvel?
A: Yes. But I can't tell ya.
#7.
Q: Do you interact with any other departments
of Warner Bros. (film, TV, etc.) and if so, in what capacity?
A: Nope.
#8.
Q: Do you have any input into the "S"
books that you don't edit?
A: Nope. Occasionally, someone
will ask my advice, but that's about it.
#9.
Q: Are there any plans at all, even
vague ones, to someday re-introduce Kara - the REAL Supergirl
- back into DC continuity, or will she just languish on the
last page of the Superman/Aliens crossover?
A: Aw, c'mon, you'll grow to
like the new kid.
#10.
Q: Are there any pros you've never worked
with that you'd kill to do something with?
A: I dig working with just about
everybody. Everybody has something worthwhile to bring to
the table generally. If Adam Warren gets a little less busy
in the future, I'd really enjoy working on a project with
him. I've been calling Dave Gibbons for quite some time now.
I've been trying to do something with Evan Dorkin & Sarah
Dyer forever. Mark Waid and Gene Ha, definitely. I still dig
D'israeli. Ask me tomorrow, it's a totally different list.
And, every day, I go nuts for another of the Superman artists'
work. Some days it's Stuart Immonen's approach I like best.
Other days, I'm enthralled by Jon Bogdanove's and Dennis Janke's
style. Paul Ryan is about the best draftsman currently working
in comics on a par with Jerry Ordway. This is not to leave
out Tom Grummett or Ron Frenz, either...have you seen their
stuff lately? Also, it's no secret that I miss all the guys
I worked with on 2099: Tom, Humberto, Jimmy, Warren, John,
Steve, Scott, Peter, Ron, Harry and all the rest. I'd like
to do something like that with them all again soon.
#11.
Q: Who are your idols, past & present,
in the comics industry?
A: Yikes. First and foremost,
there's Joe Orlando, who taught me just about everything.
I've worked with, or had projects associated with Stan Lee,
Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, John Romita, Curt Swan and Julius
Schwartz (just TRY finding any of this stuff!). Among my teachers
at SVA were Will Eisner and Harvey Kurtzman, and both of whom
have affected me profoundly. Somebody who doesn't get enough
mention is Marie Severin, who is probably my favorite cartoonist,
period.
#12.
Q: Other than the usual "work hard &
persevere" advice we always hear, do you have any tips for
people trying to break into the industry?
A: Publish yourself. Your stuff
seems to carry more weight and authority with people when
it's printed in a book, as opposed to loose and disjointed
comic book pages in a vinyl portfolio. Plus, it will force
you to finish an entire story. Plus, you will get to see what
your stuff looks like printed. This is extremely important:
you want to make sure that the sweat you're putting into your
comics shows up on the page.
#13.
Q: What are your favorite books being
published today?
A: Of the past? Again, the list'd
be different tomorrow. Actually, it changes HOURLY. At DC,
I like "The Invisibles" pretty well. Currently, I'm crazy
for a lot of the stuff that comes out of France & Belgium,
particularly "Docteur Poche" and "Jeanette Pointu," by Marc
Wasterlain. I like the Spirou books. I like the "Broussailles"
series. I like "Obscure Cities" series with Schuiten's amazing
stuff. As for Japanese stuff, Akira Toriyama, who created
"Dr. Slump" & "Dragonball" and some time ago Scott McCloud
turned me on to Shotaro Ishinomori. And who doesn't like Tezuka's
Astro Boy? Tip o' the iceberg, as you can guess.
#14.
Q: Do you attribute the decline of the
number of comic book readers to anything in particular?
A: "Free" entertainment is cheap
& plentiful. A spillion cable channels, video rentals, video
games, all featuring the same stuff we sell every month in
comics: the same genres, characters and situations! That's
gotta hurt. We gotta figure out what we can do that other
media can not. Also, too much current stuff reads like somebody
forgot the secret formula, if you know what I mean. Worse,
it's usually informed by other comics and not much else. Stan
Lee's first stuff betrayed the obvious influences of everything
he'd ever read, from Shakespeare on. Why shouldn't that be
true of guys workin' now?
#15.
Q: What sort of formal training/education
do you have, or are you simply a product of the streets?
A: I graduated from the School
of Visual Arts.
#16.
Q: Do you believe that comics have finally
smacked into a price wall and will have to revert back to
a cheaper form in order to survive comfortably?
A: I just write 'n' edit them,
I don't price 'em. I'd say more about this, and you obviously
have strong feelings about it, but it's useless if I'm not
part of that decision making process.
#17.
Q: What, exactly, does an editor do,
anyway?
A: Lots. I'm the cheerleader,
the scout, the memory bank. And occasionally, I have to pass
out the checks.
Well,
that's all for Joey C. He declined to answer the last several
questions, probably due to the fact that, as I look at them
now, they were totally nonsensical. Ah, well. I'd still like
to thank him for taking his time to answer what he did, and
hopefully he'll be up for a return bout at some point in the
future.
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